The Remington Property  Hoefler Avenue, Ilion, New York
Prepared by Turin Management · September 2026
Aerial photograph of the vacant former Remington Arms complex in Ilion, showing the large brick buildings surrounded by village homes.

For two centuries, this land provided work for Ilion.
We would like it to do that again.

This page explains what is being considered for the former Remington property, what the independent study found, and answers residents' questions with sources they can check. Before action is taken on September 28, Ilion deserves the facts and a clear understanding of the potentially harmful consequences of a local moratorium.

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A Personal Letter from Turin's CEO to the Residents of Ilion

Dear Residents of Ilion,

Before supporting a moratorium that could have lasting consequences for Ilion, I ask that you learn who we are, why Turin came here and what we are trying to accomplish. Please also review the facts presented on this page.

Turin is a small, women owned business, not a billion dollar corporation or a group of anonymous developers. We are real people investing our own money because we believe this property can have a future.

What drew us to Ilion was the opportunity to help a community recover from the loss of an employer that sustained generations of local families. Remington was part of Ilion's identity. Its closure affected employees, businesses and young people hoping to build their lives close to home. Amid that hardship, we saw an opportunity to make a meaningful difference.

We purchased the property "as is" after no other buyer stepped forward. We relied in good faith on Ilion's zoning, permitted uses and laws. We came here to create jobs, preserve as much history as reasonably possible and build opportunities for former Remington workers and future generations.

For nearly three years, we have invested millions of dollars without earning a profit from this property. As a small business, we cannot fund the extensive cleanup and redevelopment alone. Success will require outside investment, economic incentives, a financially capable end user and a community willing to work with us.

We have made a serious effort to attract manufacturing. We enlisted professionals to market the site, approached Micron, responded to manufacturers seeking locations, provided due diligence materials to a titanium manufacturer and an energy storage company and listed the property on New York State's global marketing platform. So far, no manufacturer has shown interest in moving forward with the site.

We are not giving up. We will continue pursuing manufacturing because securing a manufacturer would be a home run for Ilion, New York State and Turin. However, it would be misleading to suggest that one is waiting to move in. The property's contamination, deteriorating buildings, difficult layout, limited acreage and enormous cleanup costs make it a challenging site.

That is why we are also exploring whether a responsible data center could provide a viable path forward. To be clear, no data center end user is involved or committed to this site, and there is no proposed project to evaluate.

This page provides facts and addresses the fear and misinformation surrounding data centers. Concerns about water, electricity, noise and costs are legitimate. If a project emerges, Turin should be expected to explain how it would operate, pay for its infrastructure, protect residents and benefit the community.

For nearly three years, Turin also met regularly with Village representatives to discuss how redevelopment and the resulting tax revenue could benefit Ilion. Those discussions have stopped, and the proposed moratorium now risks closing the door to that revenue and further investment. A moratorium is not a substitute for communication.

New York State has already established a moratorium, and I support prudent government oversight. A separate local moratorium adopted without the expertise and resources needed to understand its full implications could be extremely detrimental to an already disadvantaged community.

The local moratorium may be temporary, but the message it sends that Ilion is closed to investment could be lasting and difficult to reverse. It could cost Ilion meaningful opportunities while adding another obstacle to an already difficult redevelopment.

Residents will have the opportunity to review and comment on any future project through the required site review process. No project has been proposed, and all viable options remain on the table. Now is the time for meaningful discussion, not a law that limits Ilion's choices before there is an actual project to consider.

A responsible project could bring substantial tax revenue, community investment, long term employment and years of cleanup and construction work for local businesses. When qualified local people and businesses are available, we want to hire them.

My commitment is personal. I visit Ilion often, support local businesses, volunteer at community events, speak with residents, have met with high school students and have agreed to serve as a mentor. What stays with me most is how many young people have asked me for a job. I want to give them a reason to build their future in Ilion.

I respect honest questions and differences of opinion. However, the personal attacks among members of the community have been painful to witness, and several claims being repeated are contradicted by the facts.

No politician or community member attended or participated in Turin's acquisition negotiations with RemArms. Statements suggesting otherwise are incorrect. Early confidentiality agreements protected Turin's plans, research and proprietary work while we explored the acquisition. Once it became clear there were no competing buyers, we released the parties from those agreements before purchasing the property. Turin does not buy influence or special treatment. Hiring qualified local people and businesses is how we intend to create opportunities for this community.

The local market cannot absorb approximately one million square feet of vacant, antiquated industrial buildings. Leaving the property untouched will not preserve it. It will allow the buildings to deteriorate further and create greater safety risks and public hazards.

Turin pays for the security protecting the property today, but that level of private funding cannot be assumed to continue indefinitely without a viable path to redevelopment. Closing the door on investment will not resolve the property's problems. Ilion will still have a contaminated and deteriorating industrial site, with continuing concerns about trespassing, theft, unauthorized occupancy, fire and further decay. The community deserves to understand this practical reality before actions are taken that could eliminate the property's remaining opportunities.

Please do not decide who we are or what this site could become based on rumors or social media posts. Meet us. Ask hard questions. Review the facts.

We genuinely want to help create a new community anchor for Ilion. With an informed and cooperative community working alongside us, I believe we can build something worthy of Ilion's history and future.

Sincerely,

Kristen O'NeillChief Executive Officer
Turin Management

What Is on the Site Today

On December 1, 2023, RemArms announced that it would close its Ilion factory. It fully vacated the property in March 2024, ending more than two centuries of firearms manufacturing in the Village.

RemArms funded the wind-down by selling equipment and removing virtually everything from the property that had resale value. What remained was 37 acres across 11 parcels, with 44 buildings and over one million square feet of vacant and contaminated industrial space in the center of Ilion.

RemArms also stopped heating the property in 2024, because heating costs amounted to approximately $500,000 per month. The property relies on a single loop system that requires every building to be heated rather than allowing individual buildings to be heated as needed, making it highly inefficient by modern standards. Since the heat was shut off, exposure to cold and moisture has accelerated the buildings' deterioration.

Some may imagine that the property is ready and waiting for a new company to move in. An independent study examined it building by building and found a very different reality:

Put plainly, the property cannot accommodate a new tenant as it stands, and finding a tenant willing to make this level of investment in Ilion has proven extremely difficult. Any realistic redevelopment requires extensive environmental remediation, careful evaluation of the existing structures, and close coordination with environmental regulators and historic preservation authorities to determine the appropriate path forward.

The longer the site remains vacant, the more it will deteriorate, increasing safety risks and making redevelopment more difficult and expensive. Informed, collaborative support for redevelopment can help remove these conditions from the heart of the Village and return the property to productive use.

37acres across 11 parcels in the center of the village
44buildings, all found to be aging or obsolete
1.1Msquare feet standing vacant since 2024
0buildings identified as reusable for modern industry

How This Was Studied

A full redevelopment study brought together independent specialists with expertise in planning, engineering, environmental conditions, historic preservation, infrastructure, and real estate.

The study was commissioned by Empire State Development and presented publicly by the Herkimer County Industrial Development Agency, together with LaBella Associates, Windsor Turner, HRP Associates, Hudson Cultural Services, KB Engineering & Consulting, Mancuso Business Development Group, Pike, and the Hudson River Valley Greenway. It examined the buildings, topography, infrastructure, environmental conditions, historic considerations, real estate market, and a range of redevelopment options.

The study also asked residents what they wanted. The priorities identified by the community were housing, recreation, jobs, and community benefits. Those priorities are reflected in the study and helped shape the resulting plans.

What the Market Can Support

The study took an honest look at what the local market can support. Here is what it found:

That is the dilemma. Residents understandably want housing, shops, recreation, and jobs on the property. But there is not enough local demand to pay for the new construction, much less the work required to prepare the site.

Before anything new can be built, an end user must first help carry cleanup costs estimated at $40 million to $80 million, depending on the level of remediation required for that use. A shopping center, sports field, or any of the other community-focused uses studied cannot absorb that initial cost before construction even begins.

For redevelopment to work, the site needs an end user with the financial capacity to help support both the cleanup and construction.

The study concluded that a data center requiring between 100 and 400 megawatts of power was the strongest option for the site from a community and market standpoint. It also aligned with New York State's economic development priorities. A data center appeared capable of solving several of the site's biggest challenges, including the cost of cleanup and redevelopment.

At this time, there is no specific project before the Village to review or approve. We are simply asking that the options remain open long enough to attract investment and give the community a real choice.

A moratorium would narrow those options before there is a project to evaluate. For a Village designated as a disadvantaged community, discouraging investment now could leave Ilion with few viable choices for the site's future.

What Turin Is Actually Looking At

The study did not recommend one final plan. It identified several possible ways to redevelop the property, and we are still pursuing all realistic options.

Some options depend on one large company coming to the site. Others combine a smaller lead company with uses residents requested, such as a hotel, commercial space, and workforce housing.

Every option needs a major business with enough financial strength to help pay for the cleanup and new construction. The study found that the local market cannot support those costs on its own.

Attracting a manufacturer is a top priority. We have contacted Micron and are working with Empire State Development to identify other prospects, but no manufacturer has expressed interest to date. The work we have done to find that business includes:

Perhaps a combination of manufacturing and data center uses could work. Data centers are a complex, specialized industry, and Turin is not a data center developer. We needed to hire experienced data center advisors to evaluate that possibility while we continued pursuing manufacturing and other realistic uses.

Despite these efforts, no prospective tenant has shown interest in moving forward. Potential users have instead expressed reluctance to locate in Ilion. No development is currently proposed or scheduled.

We are not asking Ilion to approve a particular project. We are asking for time to continue the conversation, attract investment, and bring real choices to the community.

A moratorium would limit those choices before there is even a project to evaluate. It would also send the wrong message to investors, contrary to New York State's efforts to encourage economic development, guide data center development responsibly, and return this property to productive use.

New York State Is Writing the Rules, and We Intend to Meet Them

Ilion residents have raised reasonable concerns about data centers. New York State is now addressing many of those same concerns with expertise and resources far beyond those available to a single village. That is good news for Ilion.

On July 14, 2026, Governor Hochul created the nation's first statewide moratorium on new hyperscale data centers. The order temporarily pauses certain State environmental permits for up to one year while New York develops rules to protect utility customers, natural resources, the electric grid, and host communities. Read the State's announcement.

We do not pretend that this order was written in favor of developers. It was not. But its goal is sensible: understand the risks, establish clear rules, and require developers to meet them.

The State is also creating a Community Investment Framework to help local governments negotiate with data center developers. This guidance is especially important for smaller communities like Ilion that do not have full-time staff experienced in negotiations of this size. It will give Ilion a starting point instead of forcing the Village to rely only on terms proposed by a developer.

We support that approach and intend to meet the standards New York establishes. If a data center end user ever comes to this site, Turin would support a public community investment agreement with the Village as part of the approval process.

New York is not rejecting the data center industry. The State is investing in Empire AI, studying how artificial intelligence can benefit working families, and setting rules for responsible development. It wants investment, but it also expects host communities to benefit.

A future data center project could significantly expand Ilion's tax base and contribute tens of millions of dollars in new revenue to the Village over time, depending on the project's size and final terms. Those funds could support public safety, parks, schools, streets, bridges, water infrastructure, and other priorities chosen by Ilion's residents and Village Board.

Turin has heard directly from residents who say they do not drink their tap water because they do not trust its quality. Ilion should have the resources to address concerns this basic and important.

That opportunity has value only if Ilion keeps the door open long enough to attract a project and negotiate meaningful benefits for the community.

One Thing Worth Thinking About

This is the part we would most want every Ilion resident to consider. It is bigger than Turin or any one type of development.

Site selection is a quiet process. Companies and their advisors keep two lists: communities worth a conversation and communities not worth the trouble. Most towns never learn which list contains their name until it is too late.

A Village-specific moratorium may be intended as a narrow response to one type of development. But site selection professionals read it as a broader signal about Ilion itself: that the Village is moving separately from New York State's regulatory process. To prospective investors, that makes the community appear unpredictable and not worth the added time, cost, and uncertainty.

There is a recent example of how quickly that signal travels. When New York announced its own, much narrower pause, the industry's national trade association responded publicly that it expected investment, jobs and tax revenue to move to other states. That was the reaction to a temporary 50-megawatt pause. New York has the size, resources, and market strength to absorb that risk. Ilion has fewer advantages and far less room for error.

The practical difficulty is that a moratorium can be lifted in a year, but a site's place on someone's shortlist is something the Village cannot vote back. That asymmetry is the whole of our concern, and we would rather state it plainly than let it go unsaid.

What is on the other side of a moratorium is worth weighing against it: thousands of construction jobs, hundreds of permanent jobs with many in the six-figure range, tax revenue in the tens of millions of dollars a year, and a negotiated community investment agreement on top of that. All on a property that today produces almost none of it.

Ilion has one large asset left: an industrial site with real power infrastructure, its own municipal electric utility, in a state actively building a framework for this kind of investment, next to the Micron corridor. Companies do not wait for towns to finish deliberating. They move to the next name on the list.

Straight Answers to What People Are Asking

These are the questions residents have raised. We have answered them directly, with the same honesty and clarity we would expect if this were happening in our own neighborhood.

A lot has been said about data centers, and not all of it is accurate. Yes, there are places where data centers have affected water supplies and power rates — but those cases are specific to particular designs and particular regions. Below we explain how water and power are actually managed and paid for, so you can judge for yourself. You are welcome, and encouraged, to check every answer independently.

"Won't it drain our water?"

The site has its own wells, and the cold climate here means the most common cooling method in this region uses almost no water at all.

There are three ways to cool a large computing facility, and they are not remotely the same:

  • Air cooled. Uses essentially no water. Heat is carried off by outside air, the way a car radiator works.
  • Closed loop. Water is sealed inside pipes, filled once, and recycled continuously. Day-to-day use is close to zero.
  • Evaporative. This is the water-hungry kind you have read about. It boils water into the air and constantly refills. It is used mostly in hot southern states where air cooling struggles.

The stories about facilities drinking a town dry come almost entirely from that third type, in hot climates. Central New York summers are mild enough to run on outside air for most of the year — the study listed the low incidence of extreme weather as one of this site's genuine competitive strengths. Air-cooled and sealed closed-loop designs are now standard for new high-density facilities.

Here is the part that matters most for Ilion. This property has its own working wells on site. A facility here would be designed to draw on those, not on the village supply. And a data center on this site would use considerably less water than Remington Arms used when it was running.

Ilion is not being asked to give up water it has. It is being asked to let a smaller user replace a bigger one.

"Will I hear a hum from my porch all night?"

A modern, properly designed facility measures about 45 to 55 decibels at the property line. A normal conversation is around 60.

Sound fades quickly. It drops by roughly half its measured level every time you double the distance from the source, so a reading at the fence is much lower at a house set a few hundred feet back.

The noise complaints you may have read about are real and worth understanding. They came mostly from northern Virginia, where facilities were built within 200 feet of homes with no meaningful setback and no sound shrouding on the equipment. Virginia's own legislative research agency found that most facilities there generate no complaints at all, and where they did, measured levels ran 40 to 59 decibels. When one operator got complaints, they replaced the rooftop fans and cut the noise roughly in half.

For Ilion there is a simpler benchmark. A modern facility on this site would run quieter than the gun manufacturing that operated here before. Anyone who lived near the plant when it was running knows what an industrial operation at that scale sounds like. And there are proven ways to reduce noise further where needed — equipment selection, enclosures, sound barriers and setbacks.

Nobody should have to take that on faith. An end user can commit to a maximum decibel level at the property line, written into the approval and verified by independent third-party testing after construction. That is the kind of protection the Village can require of any project.

What we have in mind is something we would be comfortable having in our own backyard.

"Will this raise my electric bill?"

No. The project — not Ilion residents — will pay for the necessary power infrastructure.

Here is how bills have gone up elsewhere: a utility builds new lines or substations for one large customer and then spreads the cost across everyone's bills. That is a legitimate concern, and it has happened in other states.

It is also fixable, and states across the country are addressing it. As of September 2026, 25 states, including New York, had approved rules designed to protect other customers and ensure that very large power users cover their own costs.

Turin's application follows that approach. The power upgrades required for this site, including new equipment at the substation level, would be project costs. They would not be paid by the Village or added to residents' electric bills.

NYPA also handles industrial and residential service under separate rate structures. The project's power use and infrastructure costs would be assigned to the project, not Ilion homeowners.

There is another effect that receives less attention. A large power customer can spread the fixed cost of maintaining the electric system across a broader customer base. A 2026 Electric Power Research Institute study examining residential rates from 2015 through 2024 found that data center growth placed modest downward pressure on household rates, not upward.

Ilion has seen this benefit before. When Remington operated, its electricity purchases brought revenue into the Village electric system and helped spread its fixed costs. With that major customer gone, fewer electricity sales remain to cover those costs.

Ilion also has an advantage that almost no other village has: it owns its municipal electric utility. In most communities, revenue from a large customer goes to an investor-owned utility. In Ilion, that revenue flows through a system controlled by the Village.

That creates an opportunity worth considering. Ilion’s Municipal Electric Utility could generate additional revenue from a large customer, helping subsidize residential electric rates rather than raising them. We want that possibility discussed publicly with the Village Board.

It is one of the strongest reasons Ilion is different from the communities residents may have read about elsewhere.

"Is the ground safe? What about what's buried there?"

The State is now formally involved in answering that, in public, on the record.

In June 2026, five parcels of this property were accepted into New York State's Brownfield Cleanup Program. Under that program the Department of Environmental Conservation and the Department of Health supervise the investigation and the cleanup. A citizen participation plan is legally required. Cleanup plans go out for public comment. Monthly progress reports are filed. The State does not issue its Certificate of Completion until the work meets its standard.

Two centuries of arms manufacturing left petroleum, cyanide hotspots and asbestos in and under those buildings. Leaving the site alone does not make any of that go away. In practice, cleanup of this scale happens when there is a project to pay for it. Without development, the contamination simply stays where it is.

"Are there health concerns with data centers?"

Yes. Any major development can raise health and safety concerns, whether it involves a data center, manufacturing or another use. Residents are right to ask questions.

The concerns would depend on the project. They could include noise, traffic, air emissions, water use, construction activity, or the materials used on the site. Because no project has been proposed, we cannot yet provide every answer.

If a project moves forward, Turin should be expected to explain how it would operate, identify its potential impacts, and show how residents would be protected. The community should have the opportunity to review the facts, ask questions, and understand the safeguards before decisions are made.

We also ask the community to consider the health and safety concerns that already exist at the former Remington property. The site contains petroleum residue, areas of cyanide contamination, asbestos concerns, and aging buildings exposed to the weather.

This does not mean residents are currently being exposed. That depends on whether contamination has a way to reach people, air, soil, or water. However, allowing a contaminated and deteriorating industrial property to remain unaddressed carries risks of its own.

As the property deteriorates, the potential for trespassing, fire, damaged asbestos-containing materials, and the spread of contamination may increase. Responsible redevelopment would bring further testing, regulated cleanup, safety controls, and government oversight.

We are not asking anyone to dismiss legitimate concerns or accept our assurances without evidence. We are asking that any manufacturing, data center, or other proposal be judged on its actual design and protections, while also recognizing the consequences of leaving the property as it is.

"Are the jobs real, or is it twelve guys and a fence?"

The honest answer is that it depends which kind of project happens — and we would rather tell you that than oversell it.

Construction headcount on a project like this runs into the thousands. These projects represent investments of hundreds of millions of dollars, potentially more than a billion, and a great deal of that is spent in and around the community: electricians, operators, laborers, iron workers, pipefitters, truck drivers, concrete crews, suppliers, and the businesses that serve them. That is not a season of work. That is a stretch of years in which this region's trades have somewhere to go.

Permanent jobs run into the hundreds, and many of them pay six figures. These are skilled positions — electrical and mechanical technicians, plant operators, network and systems staff, maintenance, security, logistics. Wages at that level in Herkimer County do not just support the household that earns them. They support the stores, contractors and services those households buy from.

One thing we want to be straight about: a computing facility employs fewer people per square foot than a factory does. We are not going to promise a 1950s employment picture, because that is not what this is. But hundreds of permanent jobs at those wages, on a site that currently employs nobody, is a real change for a village this size.

Independent research consistently shows that counties that get a facility like this see total employment, wages, household income and the number of local businesses rise in the following years compared with counties that did not. That effect is strongest where local contractors and trades get the work — and local hiring is something the Village can make part of any project's approval.

"What does the village actually get out of it?"

Tax revenue in the tens of millions of dollars, from a property that currently produces almost nothing.

That is the number that matters most and it is the one people find hardest to believe, so sit with it for a second. This is not a rounding error on the village ledger. It is a different ledger.

That money pays for the things residents have watched get deferred year after year: road resurfacing, water and sewer lines, the school district, the fire department, equipment, parks. And it takes pressure off residential property taxes, because every dollar that comes from the site is a dollar that does not have to come from a homeowner on Highland Avenue.

This pattern is well documented elsewhere. In DeKalb, Illinois — a small city, not a metro area — a single data center operating since 2023 allowed the city to cut its local aggregate tax rate from 11.5% to 7.9% while adding roughly $19 million a year to school funding, and it did not bring a spike in school enrollment or new demand on local infrastructure. In Loudoun County, Virginia, an independent 2026 analysis found that without data center revenue the typical homeowner's property tax bill would have to rise by about $5,800 a year just to maintain the same services.

That is the honest case for this site. Not that it hires everyone in the village, but that it helps pay for the village.

"Don't these places get tax breaks so they end up paying nothing?"

Incentives are common, and they are real. But they are decided in public, and even with them, a project like this generates large amounts of new local revenue that would not otherwise exist.

This is a fair thing to be suspicious about, so here is how it actually works. Large projects in New York often receive incentives, and those are set through public processes — the county industrial development agency holds hearings and votes in the open, and the terms become public record. Residents can see exactly what any project is getting and what it is paying.

The comparison that matters is not "full taxes versus reduced taxes." It is "a developed property paying substantial new revenue versus 37 acres of vacant buildings paying almost nothing while the village pays to police them."

The places that have been through this are the proof. Loudoun County has cut its residential property tax rate year after year while fully funding schools and emergency services, on the strength of this revenue. DeKalb, Illinois cut its local aggregate rate outright. Those are not projections. That already happened.

"Won't it pollute the air?"

A computing facility has no industrial process, no smokestack and no manufacturing emissions.

This is one of the biggest differences between a data center and what stood here before. Remington was a manufacturing operation with all the emissions, solvents and industrial processes that go with two centuries of metalwork. A facility that runs computers has none of that. Nothing is burned, nothing is chemically processed, nothing is discharged.

The air quality question that does get raised elsewhere concerns backup generators. Those are emergency equipment, tested periodically, not a power source. The power plan for this site is built around multiple independent grid feeds precisely so a facility would not be leaning on generators to operate.

"Will a data center harm wildlife?"

Any major development can affect wildlife if it removes natural habitat or is poorly designed.

Potential concerns include construction activity, noise, nighttime lighting, water use, stormwater runoff, and new power infrastructure. Those effects depend heavily on the location and design of the actual project.

This property, however, is not an untouched woodland or wildlife habitat. It has been an active industrial site for more than 200 years and is surrounded by existing development. The wildlife observed on the property has largely consisted of mice and pigeons, along with one hawk that reduced the pigeon population and a feral cat that we believe eventually displaced the hawk.

The surrounding woodlands, farms, waterways, and wildlife still matter. Any future project would need to evaluate its potential effects on those areas and comply with applicable environmental reviews and protections. Lighting, noise, runoff, construction, and effects on nearby habitat should all be addressed through careful design and regulatory oversight.

Redeveloping an existing industrial property can also avoid clearing undeveloped land elsewhere. The responsible approach is not to assume there will be no impact, but to evaluate an actual project, require appropriate protections, and keep its effects within the existing industrial site as much as possible.

"Won't there be trucks up and down my street all day?"

A data center manufactures nothing, so nothing is shipped in and out.

A factory runs on deliveries — raw material in, finished product out, every day, in trucks. A computing facility does not. Once it is built, daily traffic is mostly staff vehicles and occasional service and equipment deliveries. That is a fraction of what a plant of this footprint generates, and a fraction of what Remington generated.

The construction period is a different story and we will not pretend otherwise. Building something this size means heavy equipment and truck traffic for a sustained period, on defined routes, during daytime hours. Truck routing is one of the things decided in public at the Planning Board, and it should be.

"Will my house lose value?"

The research points the other way — and Ilion's bigger risk right now is the vacancy, not the development.

The Brookings study that tracked more than 1,500 facilities against announced-but-cancelled projects found home prices in host communities rose roughly 2 to 5 percent, not fell.

The study done on this site named the real threat to property values in Ilion by name: blight near the site, area population loss, and rising risk of vandalism, theft, destruction and vagrancy at a vacancy of over a million square feet. Nothing drags a neighborhood's values down like a dead industrial complex at the end of the street getting worse every year.

"What if this whole thing is a bubble and it sits empty in ten years?"

A fair question, and the answer is that Ilion is better off either way — because the environmental cleanup happens first.

Whatever happens to any industry over time, the sequence here does not change: the asbestos is abated, the petroleum and cyanide are remediated under State supervision, and a Certificate of Completion is issued. That work is permanent. It does not get undone by a market cycle.

What Ilion ends up with in the worst case is a cleaned, fully powered 37-acre industrial site with grid capacity, fiber, water and rail-corridor access in the middle of a state pushing hard for exactly this kind of investment. That is the most marketable piece of land in Herkimer County. Compare that to the worst case if nothing happens: the same contaminated, deteriorating property, and nobody with a reason to fix it.

"Isn't it all automated? Does anybody actually work there?"

Hundreds of people, many earning six figures, plus a steady flow of contractors.

The building runs around the clock, which means shifts. Technicians, electricians, mechanical staff, operations, network engineers, security, facilities and logistics. On top of that there is continuous outside work — electrical contractors, HVAC, fire protection, roofing, grounds, equipment installers — the kind of work local trades in this region already do.

What is true is that the headcount is smaller than a factory's. What is also true is that the wages are higher and the tax contribution is in a different league entirely. Ilion does not have to choose between those two facts. It can weigh them both.

"Will it be an eyesore?"

The Village keeps full site plan review authority over anything that gets built.

Setbacks, screening, landscaping, lighting, truck routes, building height and materials all get decided in public at the Planning Board, with residents in the room. We want that review. A project that cannot survive the neighbors looking at it is not worth building here.

It is also worth being honest about the comparison. The alternative is not open space. It is 44 deteriorating buildings in the middle of the village, getting worse every winter.

"Why should Ilion trust an outside developer?"

Get to know us. Work with us. And make sure the protections that matter are in writing.

We would rather be judged by who we are and what we do than by rumors. Kristen's letter at the top of this page explains who Turin is and why we came here. We would welcome the chance to meet anyone who has questions.

But trust should not have to rest on anyone's word. Ilion has heard promises before, from people who did not stay. The protections that matter most should be binding on whoever ultimately builds and operates on this site — and the Village has the power to require them. Any end user should be expected to put in writing, as conditions of approval:

  • A maximum noise level at the property line, verified by independent testing after construction.
  • Limits on water use, with reporting the village can see.
  • Responsibility for its own power infrastructure costs, not ratepayers.
  • Local and regional hiring targets for construction and permanent jobs.
  • A community investment agreement with the Village of Ilion, negotiated in public, with the village deciding where the money goes.

Turin supports requiring every one of those. If they are not in writing, do not take anyone's word for them. If they are, hold the project to them.

Why Anyone Is Looking at Ilion at All

It is a fair question, and the study answered it. These are the site's strengths as the consultants listed them, not as we would phrase them:

The same study listed the risks of doing nothing just as plainly: continued population loss, blight near the site, community disinvestment and apathy, and rising risk of vandalism, theft and vagrancy. Those are not hypotheticals. They are what happens to a vacancy of this size left alone.

We are here to build a business, and we are not shy about saying so. But we also came here to do something good for this village, and we believe the two can go together.

Public Hearing on Monday, September 28, 2026

The Village Board of Trustees has scheduled a public hearing on a proposed moratorium affecting developments based on their electrical demand.

If you take one thing from this page, let it be this: educate yourself on the facts before pushing your leadership to take action that could have serious and lasting consequences.

Modern industry requires power. By restricting projects based on electrical demand, this moratorium could impede many meaningful redevelopment opportunities for the former Remington site. No development is even contemplated during the proposed moratorium period. The law would serve no practical purpose beyond sending investors, manufacturers, and other potential end users a damaging message: development will not be welcomed in Ilion.

The proposed moratorium discourages all economic investment, not just data centers. It sends investors and manufacturers a clear message to stay away from Ilion. Modern industry runs on power, so a rule written around electrical demand reaches far beyond one type of building. It would pause nearly every realistic use for this site, including the manufacturing Ilion has hoped to bring back since Remington closed.

Turin has patiently waited for meaningful engagement, yet action appears to be moving forward before that engagement has occurred. The Ilion community must weigh the facts, the site's limitations, and the consequences of leaving a contaminated, deteriorating property in its center.

Younger generations and longtime residents alike should speak up. Ilion's future should be shaped by the people who will live with this decision, not by outside voices or misinformation.

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If something on this page raises a question, or you believe we have something wrong, please contact us directly at info@turinmanagement.com.

We welcome questions and are willing to engage in meaningful, respectful discussion. If you would prefer to speak in person, let us know. We are also willing to hold an open community meeting in Ilion before decisions are made.

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Where These Facts Come From

We have used independent sources rather than our own claims wherever possible. Every one of these is public and you can check it yourself.

See the full list of sources
  • The Remington Study — commissioned by Empire State Development and presented by the Herkimer County Industrial Development Agency with LaBella Associates, Windsor Turner, HRP Associates, Hudson Cultural Services, KB Engineering & Consulting, Mancuso Business Development Group, Pike and the Hudson River Valley Greenway. Source of the site conditions and market findings.
  • Office of Governor Kathy Hochul — Executive Order No. 62, issued July 14, 2026, establishing the statewide pause on new hyperscale data center approvals. governor.ny.gov
  • Office of Governor Kathy Hochul and Empire State Development — the Host Community Investment Framework for Data Center Development, released September 15, 2026.
  • New York State Department of Environmental Conservation — Brownfield Cleanup Program acceptance letters and agreements for The Remington Sites, dated June 30, 2026.
  • Edison Electric Institute — List of Large Customer Projects and Tariffs, on state rules requiring very large power users to cover their own costs.
  • Kansas Department of Commerce, Data Center Myth-Busting Reference Guide — on the three cooling types and their water use.
  • Virginia Joint Legislative Audit and Review Commission, 2024 report on data centers — on measured noise levels and setback distances.
  • Environmental and Energy Study Institute — on noise complaints and equipment retrofits in Prince William County, Virginia.
  • Electric Power Research Institute working paper, 2026 — on the effect of data centers on residential electricity rates, 2015 to 2024.
  • Brookings Institution, "New evidence on data center employment effects," 2026, and Georgia Institute of Technology, "The Local Economic Effects of Data Center Entry," 2026 — on measured local employment, wage, business and home-price effects.
  • Loudoun County, Virginia, official budget reporting, and a 2026 fiscal analysis by Mangum Economics prepared for the Northern Virginia Technology Council — on data center tax revenue and residential rates.
  • City of DeKalb, Illinois — on the local tax rate reduction and school funding increase following a single data center.
  • Stateline and the Columbia Law School Climate Law Blog — on state rules requiring large electric users to pay their own infrastructure costs.
  • Data Center Coalition public statement, July 2026 — on the expected effect of New York’s statewide pause on investment, jobs and tax revenue.
  • Spectrum News, CNY Central and The Epoch Times, 2023 to 2024 — on the Remington closure.